Posts Tagged ‘Nancy Pelosi’

Morning Joe and Nancy Pelosi discussion


Morning Joe is talking about an interview Nancy Pelosi gave about the passage of the Health Care Bill.  She is claiming, in this interview, that the opposition was fighting FOR the big insurance companies.

I think she is delusional.  She just passed a law making every person in America buy their product.  Why would she think the other side saying no no no would be a benefit to them?

Sure they have to have pre-existing conditions, etc.  However, there are a large number of uninsured young people who rarely get sick!  I think we need an actuary to sort this out and just figure it out.  Stop pointing fingers and answer the question.

I personally don’t think either side cared about insurance companies in the least while arguing this topic.

Passing of Healthcare and talking heads


In order to stay as a viable news network these days (and any day) you need ratings.  Ratings attract advertising.  The more I watch the more I’m convinced that with increased competition you have to be more dramatic, more sure of the end of the world than all the other guys.

The passing of Health Care is going to be criticized for lots of reasons and none of the ones I’m seeing are the right ones.

I have opinions on how to change the health insurance system for the better as does President Obama and Nancy Pelosi.  They are different than the people in elected office.

Here is what is ticking me off on the news.  Some news outlets are hailing the president while others are just angry.  They aren’t angry at the bill they are angry at the process.  The ‘buying off’ of various congressman and senators.

Here is the part that makes me mad.  BOTH parties do that.  It isn’t new.  The size may be different but that process is not.

So if you are mad at the bill do what the people in office did.  Run for office, donate to a PAC, take a stand and change it.

I don’t like the process either but it is what we have at the moment.  Two choices, either work within it or work to change it.  Take your pick.  But the founding fathers would not have sat around complaining.  So get up, do something, or sit down and be quiet.

DaScienceGuy

Health Care Protests; The arrogance of Nancy Pelosi


I think that this issue has caused a rift in America.  I think at this point that no matter which side you sit on you have an opinion at this point.

The other thing that can be side is that there is very little convincing left to do just yelling.  The protests are unlike anything I have seen in my lifetime.  There have been anti-war protests, there have been anti-abortion protests in my life.  But those have been basically right down party lines.

This one has people from one side totally against it.  There are independents overwhelmingly against it.  There are democrats against it.

Now this brings me to my point.  Our politicians give arrogance a new meaning.  I may disagree with Nancy Pelosi and her choice on this vote.  But I am willing to state my doubts about the proposed package and why I feel things could be better done in a different fashion.

  • Eliminate Waste in Medicare/Medicaid
  • Electronic Medical Records
  • More community medical centers to eliminate emergency room abuse

Those three are a starting point.  She on the other hand wants to just say vote for it because I said its good.

To enter the capital politicians (Congressman, Senators, the President) have a very non-public entrance they typically use.

Today, Nancy Pelosi, surrounded by Secret Service walks past the protesters with a huge smile on her face carrying her gavel to bring the house to session.  Is it me or does this just stink of arrogance.  She was basically saying to the protestors “HA HA I got what I wanted…Nanny nanny boo boo”

This is beyond anything I can recall.  Perhaps somewhere in the middle of the civil rights problems there could have been something close but that was FAR from the partisan set of laws as this is….

The method of passing healthcare unconstitutional?


Under Article 1 Section 7 of the US Constitution it says the following:

bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

I believe there can be no doubt that this Health Care bill raises funds.  Otherwise why would the CBO have to score it.  If it doesn’t raise funds and merely spends money that is a different argument.  But for the moment let’s assume there are taxes involved (as we all know there are).

The way the Congress, in particular the some but not all democrats, are talking about passing this is to pass a rule to say they voted on the Senate version of this bill but didn’t actually go through the trouble of voting.

If they do this the bill would not be a law according to the Constitution.  So how can any constitutional officer such as the President enforce such a non-law?  Is this martial law?  Does the constitution no longer matter even though the US Government derives its power from that same piece of paper?

If they do this I for one, even though I am not a lawyer, file a lawsuit in about 15 seconds.

As I have said before I am all for Health Coverage reform.  I think no one can say our Health Care is bad, the coverage maybe but the care you can’t convince me of that.  Coverage just allows you access so reforming coverage fine, but the care is currently pretty good….Best in the world most say.

This method, if used is going to be a bigger constitutional problem than Watergate ever thought of being, and could potentially get many elected officials in a lot of trouble.  I’m not sure that some wouldn’t wind up doing jail time.

Anyone who says both parties are the same now loses credibility in my book.  If they were this thing would have passed in its current form.  The Republicans do have their problems but they wouldn’t try to violate the constitution like this.  If they have ever tried and I can’t recall someone please tell me.  But don’t just come at me the the typical ‘George Bush’…Give me a politician’s name, the situation and the section of the constitution that was attempted to be violated….This is bad folks.  Very bad.

Nancy Pelosi and the quote of all time; She really doesn’t get it


Ok I posted a blog a while back about how Nancy Pelosi just doesn’t get it.  I had some push back from people and they had some valid arguments.  The arguments were great.  I love the push back.  It really does light up my day.  But I have to say that I am standing by my statement.  The woman has no clue.

She gave the following quote I found on her website dated 3/9/2010

“But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.”

I didn’t truncate that.  I cut and paste.

Shouldn’t the job of an elected official be to find out about what’s in a bill BEFORE you vote for or against it?  This bill could be great! It could be terrible!  She obviously agrees that some members don’t know what’s in there.

I suggest something else may be going on here.  She may know what’s in it and also know that if it were read in detail and fully understood it would fail by a colossal margin.  I may be wrong but according to her we have to make it law so I can find that out.

How ridiculous.  I now plan on donating a bit more to her opponents campaign funds.  Whoever that person is.  It can’t get worse.  Imagine that I would honestly rather have my labrador retriever in that role than this woman after that statement.  Would John Adams ever say that?  The founding fathers must be loading their muskets in the afterlife thinking about coming back for a second round of freedom from tyranny.

The nuclear option by Obama, Pelosi, Reid on Health Care


Apparently, according to the news the Democrats are going to attempt to use reconciliation.  That method only allows for budget items so someone procedurally has to go through a cross out anything not budget related.

This is to me an interesting thing.  As the president said if the people don’t like it that’s what elections are for.  He forgets something, I think, and I could be wrong, that he’ll lose a lot of democratic support if he tries this.  I could be wrong but it may happen.

Several outcomes are possible.

First, the news is wrong and this isn’t what they are going to do.  A real option.

Second, it will pass in some unrecognizable form.  The democrats will lose both houses in the process or you won’t be able to get a hotel room in DC due to all the protestors.  Both are fine options with me.

Third, it will fail and President Obama’s approval rating will take a deeper dive than it already has.

I don’t see any of these except for the first as something beneficial to the President or the Democrats.  They have to know this.  I can’t see their angle.  What are they trying to accomplish?  Being able to paint the republicans as the party of no?  Because they are doing what the polls show the American public wants at least on this subject?  Confused at the real motivation here.  If anyone has an idea what that motivation is please leave a comment and help me see it.

Nancy Pelosi just doesn’t get it


I have to say I would jump on either political party for having a LEADER say this.  Nancy Pelosi said (again paraphrasing but not by much) that Democrats need to vote for Healthcare regardless of if it costs them their job or not.  So even if their pesky constituents disagree they need to vote for it because she (and I guess Obama) said so.  Who cares about the voters…

Who cares about the voters (she didn’t say that but it is what she meant).

Has she read the Constitution?  Does she just not care?  This is the problem in DC you have these weirdos in BOTH parties that say things like this.  This particular politician needs to be defeated.  I don’t know who is running against her but I guarantee you I am going to find out.  Even though I live in Massachusetts I am going to be sending her opponent a campaign donation.  If I could afford to take the time off work I would go out to California and work the office.

That statement just stinks of arrogance, stinks of elitism, shows what is wrong with the politicians in our society.  The worst part is, we the voters have enabled it.  We are to blame, not them.  So I for one am taking the actions I can to make a list of those that I think need to be defeated and do EVERYTHING in my power to make sure it happens.  That goes for both parties, democrat and republican.  If that makes me a tea partier or whatever then fine but this is enough.